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 [DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB

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PostSubject: [DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB   [DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 EmptyWed Nov 25, 2009 11:20 am

First topic message reminder :

Dengan tidak mengurangi rasa hormat saya buat rekan/suhu2 di SF Ampun , ane bikin nih B1 dari skemanya bung la ode (sorry mas saya copas layoutnya hehehehe)
soalnya gak sabar pengen disandingkan dengan 2 gainclone ane..

ini versi murahnya bikin PCB buat para newbie kaya ane yang kebingungan mo bikin PCB lol!

1. Seperti biasa siapkan kertas bontak dan print layoutnya terbalik (ane pake PCBexpress)

2. Siapkan PCB yang akan dicetak yg terlebih dahulu diamplas dan dibersihkan agar toner merekat kuat, disini saya pake 2 jenis bahan PCB berbeda yang Fiber dan biasa

[DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 20091125105513_DSC03312_4b0caaa155cc3-t . [DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 20091125105513_DSC03313_4b0caaa164738-t

3. Proses penyetrikaan (nah ini yang perlu percobaan agar dapat hasil yg maksimal bagi yg baru coba heheheh)

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4. Selanjutnya proses etching dengan ferricloride secukupnya & air hangat kurang lebih selama 10mnt, sambil nunggu Merokok dlu..

setelah selesai hasil etching diberi lapisan timah biar gak korosi

[DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 20091125110220_DSC03322_4b0cac4cefe37-t . [DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 20091125110221_DSC03323_4b0cac4d031dc-t . [DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 20091125110221_DSC03327_4b0cac4d0a755-t
Nah ini yang bikin kantong pada bolong Smile
belanja komponennya.. elco smua pake panasonic,
[DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 20091125110221_DSC03325_4b0cac4d190c1-t

5. nih hasil nya sebelumnya setting / trim dahulu potensio linearnya untuk mendapakan voltase di 18VDC kemudian bonding dah tuh potensio biar ga muter2 heheheh
[DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 20091125110823_B1_gua_neh_4b0cadb77c13a-t . [DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 20091125110823_B1_gua_neh1_4b0cadb7812cc-t . [DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 20091125110823_B1_gua_neh2_4b0cadb788b4b-t

dah dicoba ke ampli biasa pake trapo 2A 24V good sound dah, next mo disandingkan gainclone lagi mikir mo jadi satu pa terpisah enaknya... and ganti Resistor ma yang lbh bgs.. :bounce:

thanks buat rekan2 SF smua... go DIYers........... metal

mo coba juga pake hifi pre-amp dari esp product.

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PostSubject: Re: [DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB   [DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 EmptyThu Mar 04, 2010 11:17 am

Kalo buffer selain B1 nggak boleh ya?
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didiet78 wrote:
Kalo buffer selain B1 nggak boleh ya?

Post aj kl om.... Biar kita2 nambah kaya pengetahuan.... He4x
Mohon maaf y kl sy menyetujui yg OOT
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didiet78 wrote:
Kalo buffer ....


Apa saja yang penting buffer...mau tube ,TR ,IC......atau kombinasi.>>>yg penting siiiip Applause
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Buffer B1 minimalis:
[DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 Img2393resize.th
[DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 Img2394resize.th

Sesuai dengan motto Mr. Pass: "Simpler is better"
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PostSubject: Re: [DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB   [DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 EmptyThu Mar 04, 2010 9:20 pm

Waww... Simple banget Om. Suaranya gmn neh ? First impressi nya dng......
Hmmm....Kykny parts nya biasa aj y, Cm Takman Carbon. Eh ntu R yg coklat 4pcs apa y ?
Pake apapun parts nya........... Tetep, saluuut buat anda Om
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wow.. keren.. buat saya partnya luar biasa. ga bisa didapet di sini soalnya. hihihihi.
itu FGnya brapa ya nilainya ?
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sutantoroy wrote:
Buffer B1 minimalis:
[DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 Img2393resize.th
[DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 Img2394resize.th

Sesuai dengan motto Mr. Pass: "Simpler is better"

maksudnya 'simple' kali yah bro soalnya dari yg saya liat part yg keliatan 'simpler' cuma R metal film 68 ohm itu aja yg lainnya udah kelas audiograde semua Nichicon goldtune & muse terus ada blackgate juga untuk R udah pake takman REY & REX terus ada tantalum juga wow Mantap

btw itu gak pake sirkuit delay apa gak bunyi 'jeduk' bro ?

alfiore wrote:

Hmmm....Kykny parts nya biasa aj y, Cm Takman Carbon. Eh ntu R yg coklat 4pcs apa y ?
:bir:


nah itu dia bro parts yg paling mahal Audionote Tantalum

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wow.. keren.. buat saya partnya luar biasa. ga bisa didapet di sini soalnya. hihihihi.
itu FGnya brapa ya nilainya ?

sepertinya itu bukan FG mas tapi KG (goldtune) nilainya 4700uf..
kan keliatan nilainya di gambarnya mas hehehe..
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hoooo!! KG toh ?
kirain FG spt di gambar ini. warnanya mirip..
[DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 Nichi_fg

kalo KG bukannya warnanya ijo ya ?
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mantap deh kalo KG.. saya juga ngilerrr..

@mas sutantoroy : beli KGnya dimana mas ?
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eudea wrote:


@mas sutantoroy : beli KGnya dimana mas ?
Mas Yuda, 'Nara sumber' kita punya kok Nichicon KG nya he he...
Mas tanto, Diodenya pakai apa ya ?

tq
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Titipan orang kok ini, ga ikutan beli komponen. Cuman asal tempel aja. Suaranya ya bersuara seperti B1 Smile

Belum dicoba bandingin langsung, ampli saya sudah ada integrated B1nya, jadi ga bisa bandingin suara. Sekilas bagus-bagus aja sih waktu saya pasang di ampli. Tapi mesti nunggu burn in, dia make kapasitor blackgate soalnya...

Diode make 1N5819, standar B1.

Biar aman nyalainnya diurut, B1 dulu baru ampli Smile
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"Edit".... Dah d jawab
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jascool wrote:


alfiore wrote:

Hmmm....Kykny parts nya biasa aj y, Cm Takman Carbon. Eh ntu R yg coklat 4pcs apa y ?


nah itu dia bro parts yg paling mahal Audionote Tantalum

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wow.. keren.. buat saya partnya luar biasa. ga bisa didapet di sini soalnya. hihihihi.
itu FGnya brapa ya nilainya ?

sepertinya itu bukan FG mas tapi KG (goldtune) nilainya 4700uf..
kan keliatan nilainya di gambarnya mas hehehe..

Wewww, Trnyt projek mahal toh..... Sad

Ada impak laen gk kl gk d pasang sirkuit delay nya, selain bunyi "jedug" td ?
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Kacamata Wuih......mantap komponen di dalamnya .....tuh B1....jadi ngiler nih......,kapan ya.....bisa punya.. Mikir
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sutantoroy wrote:
Buffer B1 minimalis:
[DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 Img2393resize.th
[DIY] B1 buffer pre-amp PCB - Page 17 Img2394resize.th

Sesuai dengan motto Mr. Pass: "Simpler is better"

Bakalan jadi kontestan BT mendatang nih ... ! didukung deh ... !
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Mesmerize ini adiknya Hypnotize....,
apa tebalik ya...? Very Happy
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Baru selesai solder2 B1 standar, test pake toroid 2A 15VAC-CT (tanpa sinyal audio).

Buffer B1-Salas versi Solfegio

Hasil pengukuran :
Toroid = 16AC
Elco PSU 3300uf = 21.7DC
Elco PSU 220uf akhir = 12.78VDC (kiri/atas) 11.74VDC (kanan/bawah)
Elco 120uf kanan atas = 10.2
Dioda 1N4002 = 6.27

Pertanyaan:
1. kenapa led kanan atas agak redup
2. Relay tidak bunyi "klik", tapi mendesis setelah 6 detik

Mohon Bimbingan, apakah ada penempatan komponen yang salah.

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@mas yadi : kanan atas itu maksudnya yang 1 doang itu ? tempat saya jg agak redup (dibandingkan sama rombongan ijo-ijo yg dibawahnya).
masalah relay : punya saya jg mendesis dulu baru klik setelah detik ke 6. eniwei, relay naisnya kerenn!!

coba di cek apakah ada kebocoran arus dc di output. di tempat saya ada 1mV.
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masalah relay : punya saya jg mendesis dulu baru klik setelah detik ke 6. eniwei, relay naisnya kerenn!!
kalo ini mendesis setelah enam detik, yang mendesis relaynya (kalo dideketin ke telinga) bukan di speaker.
padahal yang saya tunggu2 suara"klik"nya, saya takutnya kurang volt nya untuk ngangkat relaynya Dioda 1N4002 = 6.27

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weleh.. kalo kasusnya gitu, nunggu dl sama empunya B1, alias bang CRT.
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makasih kang eudea.

Apakah relay kaya gini emang halus suaranya, jadi musti pinjem teleskop (atau apa namanya ya) pak dokter ? hehehe

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